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Post by shp on May 16, 2010 20:16:30 GMT -5
How do you clean film that's, well, been abandoned for about, say, almost forty years? Here's the story.
I had gone to my grandmother's for the night, and the next day I was compelled to go around the small and old town to take some photos so I can update my dA with newer pictures (it was screaming for more, so I had to give in!). Around the 1960's to 1980's, there was an old school that the town decided to take down. They took down all but the gym. A few years later, the gym caved in. When I was taking photo's of the ruins, I felt drawn to this one particular room, and so I followed my feelings into the area. I was quite glad to have done so. For one, I managed to take some nice photo's, I hope (I shall find out when I can upload and edit them on my mother's PC, as the laptop here will not let me completely post-process the RAW images (as some options are right below the monitor and I can't see them), and for another, I found something really nice.
Film. Old film of pictures taken in 1975 of possibly Jerusalem. I gathered as many as I could find, and only one or two of them you couldn't see anything, but as for the rest, everything was perfectly fine. Except they would have dust over them or a little spot here or there, which I don't care about the spot, as most of the pictures (if you could call them that), were still viewable. I plan to upload them to my dA as part of a series, "Lost Film", but would like to clean the dust off a few of them. How do I go about doing that? Of course, they had been exposed to weather (and I had to discard three because they had tiny, TINY bugs on them, and I LOATHE bugs, especially if they're spiders), but fortunately, most of them are still okay to look at. =)
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Post by ScottWood on May 16, 2010 21:08:47 GMT -5
I'm confused as to what you mean by "film". It sounds like you really mean negatives. As for cleaning them, there are chemicals that you can buy to do that, I haven't done anything like that in years so I really can't point you in the right direction, but you can probably find something on google. I would suspect that they might be very fragile.
There might be a bigger issue with your posting the images. I don't know how DA does it, as there are things about DA that would prevent me from doing anything there, but many sites require that you own the copyright to the images that you upload. You clearly do not own the rights to these images, it is not a finders keepers kind of world. You might be ok if you make it VERY clear that you do not own these.
If they are negatives are you planning on having prints made and then scanning them, or scanning the negative directly?
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Post by Saknika on May 16, 2010 21:40:19 GMT -5
Like Scott said, you'll have to google where to find the right chemicals. I've never had to clean negatives before, so I couldn't really tell you either. Mine are all kept safe in proper storage pages and such, so I won't have to worry about things like that.
And yeah... you definitely can't upload them to DA. They don't belong to you, and DA says no to that. It's serious copyright infringement. If you were smart, you'd do the kind thing and try to figure who owns or owned them, and return them--either to the actual owner, or the family. There are probably a lot of important memories in them. And if the photographer still exists, (s)he'd probably be very happy to see those again.
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Post by shp on May 16, 2010 22:20:38 GMT -5
Part of the reason why I'm uploading them to dA is to aid in finding the actual photographer who took those, and yes, negatives. "Kodachrome" and something else that I didn't bother to notice at the time, as I was hunting for more. I do not aim to claim them as my own, as I would never do that, and would make it very clear (as I've already mentioned it in my Journal and will link to the story behind them each time I uploaded one of those things, if I did), and I actually plan to use the scanner, as it expands the image to a considerable and more noticeable size and I've learned that I could, if I was able to, invert the colors to normal. I also have a book that explains how to restore them or whatever the exact phrase is. I'm just worried that using chemicals can ruin the negatives even more. So might actually send them to a professional film-negative cleaner, since these photos are so good from what I could see. I had thought about using water or wipes, but I'm already aware any moisture can mess the film to the point of no recognition.
So far, the photographer may be from or have been visiting Jerusalem at the time of the photo's, and the photo's were taken in 1975. My grandmother even said it looked like the aftermath of WWII. We are able to see landscapes or cityscapes in some of the negatives, and also in a few of them people.
I would ask a staff on dA for more information about uploading someone else's work, as I've seen works that are obviously not done by the people who submitted them, but I have no idea how asking someone works!
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Post by Saknika on May 16, 2010 22:25:25 GMT -5
DA is mainstream for teenagers. You won't find the person you're looking for on there, I'd say. You're better off asking around the town to see if the locals know whose film it might be.
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Post by shp on May 16, 2010 22:42:02 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think it was taken by a photographer now. I looked at the pictures more carefully, and realized they weren't negatives. They were actually slides for a projector. I did find out who it's copyrighted to, well, one of them at least. One is by "Hans Huber Diaverlag, Garmisch-Partenkirchen", and a small message under the picture goes, "1104 Joseph is presented to the people as the ruler (Gen. 41, 41). The other one was a Kodachrome Duplicate, and above the picture on the other side it says, "McGlaughon". They must've been for a history class or something.  Thanks for the help, though. |
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Post by ScottWood on May 17, 2010 0:56:01 GMT -5
I think you are on to it, my guess is that they were part of a class. That being the case, you really don't want to post them. They will certainly be copyrighted, commercial images. The penalty for posting a copyrighted image can be up to $10,000 per image.
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Post by shp on May 17, 2010 12:55:28 GMT -5
Yeah, not planning to post them now. I never liked slides when I was little, no way I'm going to like them now. XD
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Post by ScottWood on May 17, 2010 14:09:15 GMT -5
Liking or disliking slides is a different discussion. I have taken tens of thousands on slides in my life.
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Post by mahtab5588 on Jul 26, 2012 0:38:54 GMT -5
There might be a bigger issue with your posting the images. I don't know how DA does it, as there are things about DA that would prevent me from doing anything there, but many sites require that you own the copyright to the images that you upload. You clearly do not own the rights to these images, it is not a finders keepers kind of world. You might be ok if you make it VERY clear that you do not own these.
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